The first dialogue was held at the Kyoto Museum of Culture on January 11th, starting at 1:00 PM.

This dialogue was organized as a crowdfunding support initiative. Approximately 20 guests gathered, including those who attended on the day.

As children, the two found it difficult to conform to reality. Now, they share a mutual understanding that an era has finally arrived where they can be themselves and be accepted.

Education, the spirit of Japanese faith, culture, history, and current topics change at a rapid pace, yet their perspective remains unwavering. It is a viewpoint from the unseen world—the universe, the spirit realm, and other dimensions.

Using the mystery of division in arithmetic as an example, Saara asks, “Isn’t it strange that half disappears?”

Our world is built on the balance of yin and yang, and yin inherently exists. In truth, half never truly vanishes.

Shifting the topic to the artwork depicting the Honnoji Incident displayed in the background,

“Nobunaga grew weary of slaughter, and Mitsuhide surely desired peace too,” said Shiozawa. Citing the theory that the two headed for the Vatican, he prompts viewers to ponder: Where does the truth lie？

 Greeks and Japanese share similarities, and one is reminded that Japanese possess a balance of yin and yang. While explaining his work, Shiozawa states that art cannot be expressed unless yin and yang coexist. He asserts that evil cannot be erased.

Listening to their conversation, a perspective from an invisible world, a dimension different from reality, naturally opened up for the listener too, drawing them in.

The mysterious talk session lasted an hour and a half, after which it transitioned into an introduction to Nishijin Art Textile works.